Karim BELABAS on Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:12:01 +0200 (MET DST)


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Re: >0 ?


[Keith Briggs:]
> Is there a function or algorithm in pari which will decide
> if a given element x of a number field (expressed on an integral
> basis) is positive, without doing any floating-point arithmetic?

1) if r_1 = 1, you can compute Norm(x)  [ sign(norm(nfbasistoalg(nf,x))) ]
(this remains a cheap test even when r_1 > 1)

2) you can compute the minimal polynomial of x

[ y = charpoly(nfbasistoalg(nf,x)); pol = y / gcd(y,y') ]

then use polsturm(pol, 0) == poldegree(pol) to check the number of positive
real roots [ there are more efficient algorithms for real roots than Sturm's
(e.g Uspensky's), but they are not implemented in the distributed version yet ]

3) You could also get a guaranteed answer by computing the roots of pol. This
uses floating point arithmetic but produces a proven output (i.e if you ask
for 100 exact decimals, you obtain them), so given an initial approximation
of the roots, you can obtain a proof that they are indeed of the expected
sign. 

Of course, multiplying by nf[5][1] is the fastest way (which is used in the
PARI code) but it neither avoids floating point arithmetic, nor provides a
guaranteed output.

Hope this helps,

    Karim.
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